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Monahorns's avatar

Proverbs 13 isn't about Jesus or His relationship to His sheep.

That being said you can read multiple passages in the NT talking about the discipline of the Lord, church discipline, and even excommunication. All of these things are the rod as applied to believers in the church. If you think God's discipline isn't extremely painful, I don't know what to tell you. I've been through it several times. I prefer being spanked by my Earthly father.

Proverbs 23 addresses Earthly discipline directly. It's very clear what it means. I don't think it means cruelty either. It isn't describing what we think of as child abuse, but it describing a method of discipline that God says fathers should use, and the effect when carried out properly in love in patience with restraint for the purpose of correction and not as a way to express anger or frustration.

13 Do not hold back discipline from the child,

Although you strike him with the rod, he will not die.

14 You shall strike him with the rod

And rescue his soul from Sheol.

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For 60 years, I was a city boy. For nine years, I’ve been a rural retiree. My neighbors have small, mixed herds of sheep and goats. I just spent a half hour with ChatGTP asking questions about what I see and what sheep herding was like in the ancient Levant. The biggest difference is here, the pastor manages the dogs and the dogs manage the herd. Herding sheep on grasslands in antiquity was a very active job for the shepherd!

I love this word picture used to describe our relationship with God, and then the twist, “Behold the Lamb of God, who taketh away the sin of the world”!

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